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The red adjuster is attached to the inner part of the remote reservoir which, in turn, is bolted to the horizontal bracket holding it to the main damper tube.
The grey outer sleeve/tube of the remote reservoir moves up and down, according to the amount of gas pressure inside. It doesn't look as if it should move but it does.
The valve for adding the gas is at the bottom of this remote reservoir so if the pressure is increased the whole reservoir is forced down. When the pressure is reduced the remote reservoir moves upwards. When the pressure drops to zero, the remote reservoir comes to rest against the horizontal bracket holding it to the main damper.
This means it's a very easy visual check to see if your damper has lost its gas pressure, once you know what to look for. Basically, if the outer sleeve is resting against the horizontal bracket it's time for a rebuild.
Hope this makes a little more sense.
The grey outer sleeve/tube of the remote reservoir moves up and down, according to the amount of gas pressure inside. It doesn't look as if it should move but it does.
The valve for adding the gas is at the bottom of this remote reservoir so if the pressure is increased the whole reservoir is forced down. When the pressure is reduced the remote reservoir moves upwards. When the pressure drops to zero, the remote reservoir comes to rest against the horizontal bracket holding it to the main damper.
This means it's a very easy visual check to see if your damper has lost its gas pressure, once you know what to look for. Basically, if the outer sleeve is resting against the horizontal bracket it's time for a rebuild.
Hope this makes a little more sense.
I'll post some pics up of mine tomorrow which should help visualise this, before they go off to Ben @ BG.
Hazza, Just reading about your lads exploits as we speak, good idea these days - i learned around the same age, on black rock sands in north wales (not sure they allow cars on there now) it really prepares you for the car control element of driving (the most critical part).
PS posting pics is easy - right at the bottom of this thread, under where you click submit, is a tab (in grey) to upload an attachment, next to the one saying Options. Click that tab and upload the file, add a comment if you wish to the pic. It's that easy.
Hazza, Just reading about your lads exploits as we speak, good idea these days - i learned around the same age, on black rock sands in north wales (not sure they allow cars on there now) it really prepares you for the car control element of driving (the most critical part).
PS posting pics is easy - right at the bottom of this thread, under where you click submit, is a tab (in grey) to upload an attachment, next to the one saying Options. Click that tab and upload the file, add a comment if you wish to the pic. It's that easy.
BenG
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That makes perfect sense, thanks for letting us know.
I cant believe there was actually an indication of the gas pressure and no one on here was aware of it until now.
You would have thought someone would have been informed of this somewhere along the line.
Cheers.
Ben.
Imformation is power and all that, I am suprised as well but we wouldn't need doctors if we could all self diagnose.
Anyway cue what we need is a measurement of the position of the reservoir relative to the cross member when its full and wher it can drop to.
Anyway cue what we need is a measurement of the position of the reservoir relative to the cross member when its full and wher it can drop to.
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I'm OK with the concept of sending them of for a rebuild.
But if you give your car to a garage to remove and replace how is your car left with no dampers while they are sent away?
Left on axle stands at the side?
Put on some old 182 Dampers?
But if you give your car to a garage to remove and replace how is your car left with no dampers while they are sent away?
Left on axle stands at the side?
Put on some old 182 Dampers?
BenG
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So as hoolio said its now clear the dampers will lose pressure over time and cause the problems which alot of us have had over the past year or so, regardless of milage. notice how I read your post :wink:
So were talking 3-4 years for the gas to lose pressure, oh will at lease we can keep an eye on it now.
So were talking 3-4 years for the gas to lose pressure, oh will at lease we can keep an eye on it now.
Very good information there, thanks for that.
I've just been out to mine but I can't get an angle to look at them with the wheels on, look like I've got a job for tomorrow.
I've just been out to mine but I can't get an angle to look at them with the wheels on, look like I've got a job for tomorrow.
How long to BG motorsport take to refurb them ? And if I take the car to them will the remove, refurb and then refit ?
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To check the 'gap' without taking the wheels off, you can just jack the front up. It creates enough space to place a camera under the arch to take some photos. Luckily I have the gap. Does that mean they are 100% OK?
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I would say the way to tell if there 100% ok is to measure the gap of a set that have just been refurbished and compare the difference between them and yours. If you would like I can measure the gap on mine as I had them done a couple of months ago, but Gman has 'just' had his done so his may be a more accurate measurement?
When I sent my damper off for refurb I recieved the dampers back 4 days later I think. Ben sent me an e mail saying he recieved the dampers at about 5PM, he serviced them and sent them off the next day. They will remove and refit them if you want too, at an extra cost.
Just went out to check mine. Didn't jack up the car or anything, just stuck my hand around the top of the wheel to feel the damper. I can feel a gap of around 5mm between the top of the cylinder and the bracket holding the cylinder. Its the same on each side even though the near side is new. 
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Well i've just been out for a nice little spirited drive on the new shocks, I can't not begin to describe how much better they are, i think mine must of got bad over a long period and i've just got use to it (apart from recently when the car really began to wonder)
As BenG has said mine have only been on since yesterday and have only covered about 25 miles so i will take some photos and measure the gap tomorrow and post up in this thread.
As BenG has said mine have only been on since yesterday and have only covered about 25 miles so i will take some photos and measure the gap tomorrow and post up in this thread.
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