Nurburgring Lap

[Rick C196]

Was at the 'ring at the weekend, had a fantastic time in the Trophy, definitely the most fun I've had there yet

Was hugely impressed with the Pagid Blues, they really did give incredible stopping power.

Got a clip of the last lap of the day, but wasn't the fastest. My best was a 9:08 with traffic and a mate managed a 9:02 on a clear lap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x9_5FBp_50

 

[Johnny E]

Nice vid i enjoyed that =D>

I done it a few years ago in my old Scooby

 

[glenn]

good vid what camera were you using and i can not wait until august now

 

[Rick C196]

That was recorded with a Lumix LX3 but I forgot to set it to hi def #-o

Tried to use Harry's Lap Timer on the iPhone also and I was very impressed with the potential data you can get but the GPS quality is so poor on the iPhone. Perhaps with a cradle mounted to the screen the results would be better.

 

[eljeffo64]

Like the vid! Sounds like you were searching for grip! When did you last check the geometry?? Any idea what your V max was??

 

[Rick C196]

Like the vid! Sounds like you were searching for grip! When did you last check the geometry?? Any idea what your V max was??

Never checked the geometry? :?: Why would it be out?

V max was probably through the foxhole, I was flat through there about 125mph. Though I'm not sure what I was doing on the approach to Schwedenkreuz, probably a similar speed.

 

[Gman]

Nice lap =D>

I was out there last month for the first time in my cup (took my old trophy last year though) also going back in september, brilliant place.

How many laps have you done now?

 

[Rick C196]

Nice lap =D>

I was out there last month for the first time in my cup (took my old trophy last year though) also going back in september, brilliant place.

How many laps have you done now?

Erm... about 25 ish over the last few years. Came off at Schwedenkreuz last year in another car so if I was a bit tentative around there you'll understand why!

 

[eljeffo64]

Tyre squeal, seemed excessive - could be pressures could be geo??

 

[Rick C196]

Tyre squeal, seemed excessive - could be pressures could be geo??

Tyre pressures were 33 front 30 rear (adjusted for the heat). What's involved in adjusting the geometry? Is it something anyone can do?

 

[Gman]

Erm... about 25 ish over the last few years. Came off at Schwedenkreuz last year in another car so if I was a bit tentative around there you'll understand why!

The last two times i've been there i've seen nasty accidents at Schwedenkreuz both M3s, and two of my favourite models, a E46 CSL and a E30 M3 EVO.

Have you got the Michelin PE2s on your trophy? I've got them in trophy size on my cup and i was getting similar squeal but apparently you couldn't hear it outside of the car, or it wasn't as obvious according to some friends. It was about 35degrees though if i remember correctly.

 

[Rick C196]

Yeah got the PE2's on the Trophy

 

[Cue]

you really need laser aligement stuff to do a proper accurate job - i'd say for track work get some aftermkt camber bolts from eibach and go to -2.0 camber on the front and neutral toe... you'll find you carry a bit more sped through the corners and friction is reduced down the straights leading to slightly quicker acceleration and higher top speeds (but with lower tyre temps) although the downside is you do loose a tad of stability under heavy braking (im talking samping on them) by going to neutral toe.

 

[eljeffo64]

I do a fair bit of track with mine - BIG difference with -2 degs camber ( with eibach bolts) and the correct toe out (tiny just 10") set up as per advice from an earlier thread on here somewhere.
Your TP's were ok ( assuming std tyres not toyo's or similar) at worst maybe 1 or 2 psi too heavy - maybe.... The geo is totally fine for normal road use too. I get no instability under braking ( on track or road) btw.

Geo set up was the best 40 odd quid I spent on mine!

 

[Rick C196]

So what's required for adjusting the camber? Some Eibach bolts? I don't want to introduce any oversteer, the car handles great for me as it is

 

[nickboazracing]

I do a fair bit of track with mine - BIG difference with -2 degs camber ( with eibach bolts) and the correct toe out (tiny just 10") set up as per advice from an earlier thread on here somewhere.
Your TP's were ok ( assuming std tyres not toyo's or similar) at worst maybe 1 or 2 psi too heavy - maybe.... The geo is totally fine for normal road use too. I get no instability under braking ( on track or road) btw.

Geo set up was the best 40 odd quid I spent on mine!

A bit of toe out on the front will improve braking stability if needed. About 1.5mm, and it will help turn in.

I'm looking at going over in august, 13-15th.

 

[eljeffo64]

So what's required for adjusting the camber? Some Eibach bolts? I don't want to introduce any oversteer, the car handles great for me as it is

. Just the bolts, no oversteer at all ( if you don't lift off!)

 

[hoolio]

So what's required for adjusting the camber? Some Eibach bolts? I don't want to introduce any oversteer, the car handles great for me as it is

. Just the bolts, no oversteer at all ( if you don't lift off!)

And it will handle even better with the geometry and camber changes, really.

 

[Rick C196]

Come on then... where do I get these bolts from and how do I read up on what adjustments need to be made?

 

[eljeffo64]

Got mine from K Tec - you'll find 2 or 3 threads if you do a search on here