New Civic

[hyb]

What do you lot think about it? I quite like it, there's a greyish one that passes me everymorning, certainly stands out. Quite like the dash too :shock:

I've seen a few concept pics of the Type-R and that does look nice

 

[OliS]

Can't get used to the styling myself, seems too large and bulky from side on, and the front and rear light arrangements aren't to my liking either. Having said this, I remember hating the Focus when that was originally released, but now it just seems to blend in with the rest of the cars out there, so maybe my opinion on the Civic will change over time as well.

Have not seen any pics of the Type-R yet, you got any links?

 

[iain_c]

I love it!
Its totally mad. It looks 10 years to early. Finaly a very brave car on the roads.
Only time will tell if it gets dull like the focus tho.

 

[richard3]

Apparently its going to be 2.2 ltr 197 bhp for the type R and then later on a type RR with even more power but doesnt say how much it's all in todays Autocar.

 

[duffer987]

Motor Trend gave the Civic its 2006 COTY award. In North America the Civic is branded the SI and its a coupe instead of a hatchback and it does produce 197 bhp at 7800 screaming revs. Don't like the looks of the coupe, keeps the tradition of the blocky (for lack of a better description) Civic going.

 

[Day]

I prefer the SI - much prettier 8)

 

[duffer987]

Wow, that white one looks sweet! I take it back, I guess Motor Trend shoulda picked better pictures :wink:

 

[OliS]

Agreed - White one in the top pic looks great, there is more than a hint of Integra Type-R about it.

 

[Nik]

 

[Ash87]

I hate the new advert for it :lol: goes on too long and you dont see much of the car. The accord advert was cool tho!

Not to sure on the actual car havent seen one in the flesh yet, but that white one does look good, are honda going to use it in the BTCC?

 

[Day]

Honda are not in the BTCC as an official entry however they will be represented once again by Team Dynamics and will this year be joined by Eurotech and Motorbase Performance who will all be using the previous DC5 model.

 

[Steve]

New Civic Type-R review in autocar.


Honda Civic
Test date 29 January 2007 Price when new £16,975


What’s new?
The burgeoning hot hatch class must be just about full now the new Honda Civic Type-R has arrived. Based on the imaginative current Civic, this latest ‘R’ has an unenviable fight on its hands to repeat the sales success of the old model; 15 per cent of all old-shape Civics sold in the UK were Type-Rs. It's a car we weren't fully prepared for, and won't forget for a long time. The specifications sheet of this new one doesn’t make terribly encouraging reading, however. Honda has found just one extra horsepower within the confines of its 2.0-litre VTEC engine in the last six years, instead concentrating on broadening the engine's effective VTEC zone, and its urge outside of that zone. Most controversial of all, though, is Honda's move to dump the Civic's proven independent rear suspension; this new fast Civic has a torsion beam at the back, just like the regular Civic.
What's it like?
Some Type-R fundamentals just don’t change. This is still an engine that will delight enthusiasts with the crispness of its throttle response and the machined purity of its soundtrack. And, to be fair, it now has a better spread of torque over a wider rev range, even if the reduced sensation of the engine coming on cam does spoil the excitement a little.

What's regrettable about this new Type-R has more to do with the basic Civic. Like that car, and most modern hatchbacks, the Type-R's no lightweight, tipping 1338kg on our scales. With the 2.0-litre i-VTEC engine only cranking out 142lb ft of torque at a high 5600rpm, the latest Type-R only really feels quick once you’ve reached the last few hundred rpm near the screaming 8000rpm cut-out point. You'll have fun staying at the top end of the rev range, admittedly; the Type-R's fascia-mounted gearshift is as great as ever. You just won't be having particularly fast fun. But Honda knew this. It wanted to create a more rounded CTR with this car, with a smoother ride and better general refinement. They’ve succeeded, although that’s not to say the car has lost its frantic edge entirely; there's now a genuine pliancy to the way the car reacts over bad surfaces which was notably absent from the original CTR.

The steering – always a weak point before – is much improved; it's now got a consistent action from lock-to-lock, but lacks feel. But – and here's the bit Swindonian door-handlers won't want to read – if you're a keen driver, you will notice the switch to a torsion beam rear-end. This car lacks the poise and throttle adjustability that its forebear exhibited when driven quickly, and its body control at speed becomes slightly ragged over bumpier surfaces. It serves up a driving experience you value chiefly for the engine’s character; this car has little else, other than perhaps its bold interior and exterior styling, that'll really delight the enthusiast. And that's the real shame.
Should I buy one?
The Honda Civic Type-R still offers a unique take on the hot hatch mantra; it remains good (if no longer exceptional) value, and is now even more dramatic to behold. But, though it seems churlish to write 'we told you so,' it isn’t quite the car we'd hoped for.
Adam Towler

Trophy - 1
New Breed Competition - 0

 

[Steve]

Here's the link;

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/Fir ... -R/223990/

And just as a reminder;

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/Fir ... hy/216093/

:lol:

 

[Cue]

hhmmmn, wonder what the segment wil lbe like when the clio F1 and cosra VXR enter the arena.... Mini still king? if so we know what top trumps the mini

 

[Steve]

http://www.pistonheads.tv/clip1161

Nice video of the new CTR attacking Lord March's garden path. I love the gearknob, not sure if it's worth £18,600 for the feel of cold metal in the palm though.

 

[duffer987]

Still not sure aboot the digital speedo. Nice to see the dial moving from left to right instead.