wats the fastest someones had out there trophy, n as any1 beat a cooper s because me dads got 1 and it feels alot quicker than my trophy iv not raced him yet tho, s,pose i should really. please help
trophy v's cooper s
I drove a cooper s about a year ago before buying the Trophy, I recon the Trophy wins every time... The Mini is a good car but to fat and weighty.
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A friend has a cooper s we raced each other from start in a straight line the trophy was faster there's not much in it but as soon as you hit bends the trophy commands.
There's no doubt the cooper s is a good little car and sounds awesome withthat super charger.
There's no doubt the cooper s is a good little car and sounds awesome withthat super charger.
I've owned two cooper s's (the first went back after 6 months of agro) and the two cars really are quite different.
Trophy feels much livelier and energetic and with considerably more grip, the mini four wheel drifts far too easy! The trophy's engine is much quicker to rev with a reason to go to 7,000 rpm the mini's is much more laboured with no real 'kick'.
Steering though is lovely in the mini, best feature of the whole car.
Trophy would murder a cooper 's' around a track, as has been proven by the cup winning the Autocar hot hatch shoot out convincingly.
Both grat cars, but the Trophy is my new best friend !!!
Trophy feels much livelier and energetic and with considerably more grip, the mini four wheel drifts far too easy! The trophy's engine is much quicker to rev with a reason to go to 7,000 rpm the mini's is much more laboured with no real 'kick'.
Steering though is lovely in the mini, best feature of the whole car.
Trophy would murder a cooper 's' around a track, as has been proven by the cup winning the Autocar hot hatch shoot out convincingly.
Both grat cars, but the Trophy is my new best friend !!!
Nobody has touched on the BMW Cooper S's exorbidant price!
Mini definately has weightier steering, but i still don't like them at all - just a personal opinion.
also, don't race your dad - recipe for disaster.....
also, don't race your dad - recipe for disaster.....
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In an attempt to add some value to this thread (but not in line with the original question), I do believe that the Cooper S has the following key benefits over the Trophy:
-Superior Gearbox - feel, accuracy and number of speeds offered
-Superior build quality - unlikely to rattle, better interior design, less road noise, better overall packaging
-Most people of the female orientation seem to fall in love with them. Instantly.
-Easier to get more power out of as a % of original power per £ owing to supercharger and general popularity of the car
With regards to residuals - I think these are fairly similar to the Trophy. In particualr the Cooper S is more expensive to buy, so a 10% loss on either car will result in you losing more £ with the Cooper S. Even when disregarding this factor, the Trophy seems (at the moment) to have superior residual %'s. I know of cars that've covered 10k miles and are still worth what the owners have paid for them (especially as there were many bargains to be had buying the car brand new before fame hit the cars thanks to Evo magazine).
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O.
-Superior Gearbox - feel, accuracy and number of speeds offered
-Superior build quality - unlikely to rattle, better interior design, less road noise, better overall packaging
-Most people of the female orientation seem to fall in love with them. Instantly.
-Easier to get more power out of as a % of original power per £ owing to supercharger and general popularity of the car
With regards to residuals - I think these are fairly similar to the Trophy. In particualr the Cooper S is more expensive to buy, so a 10% loss on either car will result in you losing more £ with the Cooper S. Even when disregarding this factor, the Trophy seems (at the moment) to have superior residual %'s. I know of cars that've covered 10k miles and are still worth what the owners have paid for them (especially as there were many bargains to be had buying the car brand new before fame hit the cars thanks to Evo magazine).
Cheers
O.
Street racing posts are utterly utterly utterly pointless, people posting them deserve a lifetime subscription to max power, but i will say that the suspension in the cooper s is harsh as anything, its like driving over cobbles constantly. I doubt its stiffer than the Trophys, its just the difference a decent and properly valved set of dampers makes.
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lmao, i cant believe it! are we really comparing a cooper s to a trophy?????!!! lmao....
why why why are we doing this? it would and should have taken one answer. NO! lol
evo magazine summed it all up during the m6 vs trophy review...
'is this the biggest mismatch ever?! NOT A CHANCE, so why did we pit the trophy and the M6 together? well they are both very special and pitting a tropyh up against a civic type r or a mini cooper s would just be unworthy!'
answer the question?
and in a straight line, 0-60 on a trophy is 6.5 by the way, compared to a 7.4 on a cooper s... even the 20 grand cooper s works can only manage 6.9 to 60!
lmao, i cant believe it! are we really comparing a cooper s to a trophy?????!!! lmao....
why why why are we doing this? it would and should have taken one answer. NO! lol
evo magazine summed it all up during the m6 vs trophy review...
'is this the biggest mismatch ever?! NOT A CHANCE, so why did we pit the trophy and the M6 together? well they are both very special and pitting a tropyh up against a civic type r or a mini cooper s would just be unworthy!'
answer the question?
and in a straight line, 0-60 on a trophy is 6.5 by the way, compared to a 7.4 on a cooper s... even the 20 grand cooper s works can only manage 6.9 to 60!
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Anything Evo say about the Trophy needs to be taken with a grain of salt, actually make that a whole salt lick! :wink: Using that to make the case doesn't fly. A trophy/cooper s comparison is a way more realistic one than a trophy/m6. While making for a neat article, with the usual accompanying pretty pictures, anyone who thinks that comparison is valid is offbase, especially with some straightline times for them :shock:
That said I think we're in agreement here in the forum that the Trophy is our easy choice over the Cooper S.
182cup said:
Anything Evo say about the Trophy needs to be taken with a grain of salt, actually make that a whole salt lick! :wink: Using that to make the case doesn't fly. A trophy/cooper s comparison is a way more realistic one than a trophy/m6. While making for a neat article, with the usual accompanying pretty pictures, anyone who thinks that comparison is valid is offbase, especially with some straightline times for them :shock:
That said I think we're in agreement here in the forum that the Trophy is our easy choice over the Cooper S.