Swirl marks

[fazedesign]

Thought that post would open a can of worms :lol:

I expect I probably have seen a permagarded car at Trax, and I've seen a good few cars that have been properly waxed etc and to be honest I couldn't tell too much difference, although obviously I cannot make comment on the durability of such finishes having no direct experience myself.

I guess I'm just very sceptical of "wonder treatments" especially ones that promote themselves with scientific talk that 99.9% of the population don't have a chance of understanding whether it's valid or not.

The importat thing is that the guy who's spent the money is happy with results, and it sounds like most of you Permagard users are. I'd personally go the waxing route, unless I could be convinced Permaguard is the real deal - but thats simply a matter of personal choice.

:mrgreen:

 

[fazedesign]

Regarding swirl marks - traditional detailing will remove them with a light polish, Permaguard claims to fill them - either way you will lose the marks. You pays ya money, you takes ya choice!

(Although if Permagard works as advertised then it would appear to be the better solution for removing swirls)

 

[T7PHY]

Permagard rules, there is no argument... I've had 4 cars done by Mike Perry at the London branch and you can't fault his service or the final results.

See here http://cliotrophy.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2311&highlight=

You will never look back (or worry about wax heating up, melting, taking in dirt/grit and hardening again).

Trust me. :twisted:

 

[Steve]

Thanks Guys, I knew you would be along soon.

Permagard - the best.

All other copycat treatments - Pants.

There is only one Permagard, it stands alone as the best way to protect your car's paintwork, Supagard, Wonderguard etc. are just shite.

 

[Shabba]

Thanks Guys, I knew you would be along soon.

Permagard - the best.

All other copycat treatments - Pants.

There is only one Permagard, it stands alone as the best way to protect your car's paintwork, Supagard, Wonderguard etc. are just shite.

Permagard has been around for a while now.

The Fact that it is used in the Aviation and Marine industry counts for alot.

Who in their right mind would spend a "boat" load of money getting their private yatch or plane that costs hundreds of thousands coated in some thing that isn't upto the job.

Money doesn't buy good sense, but good sense spends money wisely. (Made up old Chinese proverb) :lol:

In my case only time will tell if Permagard lives up to all the promises (and guarantee), but from the evidence I've seen, it does.

 

[=CatasTrophy=]

Could someone please explain how the permaguard treatment is applyed ?

So all you guys that have had there trophys pG'd did u have swirl marks before ?

im not compairing Supa G and PG im simply saying i dont think neither of them can remove swirls as they are both only sealants .

 

[=CatasTrophy=]

no really, permagard is more than a sealant - swirl marks are microscopic scratches that are suface scratches - thea reason you can see them is light reflects diifferently of them. Permagard 'fills' in these microscratches so you can no longer see the swirls.
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Yeah but if u look on the Supagaurd website it also says thats what it does :roll:

 

[oliie]

It's funny that the only people who diss Permagard are the ones that have not had it done to their car!

Find someone who isn't amazed by their Permagard treatment and I'll eat my eat my hat. And I'm really not all that hungry.

With regards to swirls - Permagard will take a claybar to the paint if needed and then apply the coat of polymer over an untreated surface for maximum effect.

We had our car in Hong Kong coated with Permagard. Five years on and baking in the Cyprus sunshine it still amazes me everytime I take to washing it. Did I mention the coat is five years old? If not, the coat is five years old.

Try first. Diss later. 8)

O.

 

[=CatasTrophy=]

It's funny that the only people who diss Permagard are the ones that have not had it done to their car!

Find someone who isn't amazed by their Permagard treatment and I'll eat my eat my hat. And I'm really not all that hungry.

With regards to swirls - Permagard will take a claybar to the paint if needed and then apply the coat of polymer over an untreated surface for maximum effect.

We had our car in Hong Kong coated with Permagard. Five years on and baking in the Cyprus sunshine it still amazes me everytime I take to washing it. Did I mention the coat is five years old? If not, the coat is five years old.

Try first. Diss later. 8)

O.

what are u smoking m8 , where in my post do i diss Permaguard ????
im only asking a question is it that hard ?
If i thought that permagaurd was suitable for the job of removing swirls id have enquired about it, only prob is there isnt anywhere in Scotland that does it .
But from what ur saying now is that the car is clayed and buffed up then the permagaurd is applyed so its not really the permagaurd that is removing the swirls which is what ive been trying to get at , ive said already 3 x permagaurd is only a sealant and is applyed to the car after any defeacts are repaired using other products .

 

[fazedesign]

It's funny that the only people who diss Permagard are the ones that have not had it done to their car!

Or you could say it's funny how people who have paid their money for Permagard are justifying their purchase :wink:

I'm not trying to diss Permagard with my comments, just providing an alternative viewpoint to the many fans of the treatment on here. It can only be a good thing if this debate means that someone spends more time thinking about how they are going to look after the paintwork on their car, to ensure they pick the best product for the job.

It would just surprise me that there can be one product that is head and shoulders above all others in terms of the protection and durability it offers. I'm intrigued by the science they base their claims on and will definitely read up more on it to make my own mind up!

 

[pacey]

I like washing and polishing my own car , its part of the fun for me .

If i had it PG'd all i have to do to clean it is rinse it of ? How boring is that :roll:

PG = lazy people

*runs and hides*

 

[Shabba]

Unless something is wrong with mine, you still need to use a bit of elbow grease to remove the grime.
I thought it'd just wash off.
Admitadly no cleaning agent was used and it came up pristine.
Anyone else agree :?: