£190 to tax a sodding Clio from now on :x
Cheers Gordon....
I have five words to say to MR Blair and his arse bandits
YOU ARE A FCUKING PRI*K.
Now better get back to hard work so as to be able to pay for my road tax and the petrol so i can drive on the shitty pot holed roads :evil:
Excuse my langauge
YOU ARE A FCUKING PRI*K.
Now better get back to hard work so as to be able to pay for my road tax and the petrol so i can drive on the shitty pot holed roads :evil:
Excuse my langauge
Positive side? There is no positive side, its just lining the pockets of nobbins like blair so they can go and waste it on another big tent in london or some such other piece of crap
I wouldnt mind the £25 extra, if the roads were like those in Europe.
After driving on the main roads in France, Germany, Spain etc, the main roads are silky smooth.
Now if the roads were as good as European roads the £25 would be a little easier to swallow.
But as it stands an additional £25 plus the £40ish to fill the car up, and the driving on a road system that is still the same as it was in the 80's I find it a disgrace.
:evil:
Plus you hit a pot hole with the trophy a fcuk the sachs suspension do you really think Blair and the county council will pay out the £1500 to replace the suspension, i suspect the answer would be NO!!
After driving on the main roads in France, Germany, Spain etc, the main roads are silky smooth.
Now if the roads were as good as European roads the £25 would be a little easier to swallow.
But as it stands an additional £25 plus the £40ish to fill the car up, and the driving on a road system that is still the same as it was in the 80's I find it a disgrace.
:evil:
Plus you hit a pot hole with the trophy a fcuk the sachs suspension do you really think Blair and the county council will pay out the £1500 to replace the suspension, i suspect the answer would be NO!!
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Fees like this are not instigated just for one thing.
If I were to tell you that fees such as this contribute to the great cars we are able to drive - would you believe me?
The economic principle is as follows:
- Car makers want to sell as many cars as possible
- A car that requires the consumer to pay less tax will have a marketing advantage over one that is more expensive to tax
- Car makers invest more money into R&D to develop cleaner and more efficient engines
- The consumer and the environment win: more economical engines
If fuel tax never increased and the fees for running a car were the same as 50 years ago then there would be no incentive for manufacturers to improve their engine efficiency (after all it would be dirt cheap to fill up so consumers would not value economy as an important attribute).
So yes, people go on and on about this rise but at the end of the day you will end up with better cars (read: more fuel efficient) which has a by-product of being better for the environment.
The same goes for future initiatives. If there is no incentive for manufacturers to sell Hydrogen/Hybrid cars then why should they bother to make them? As it stands these cars are almost exempt from tax so manufacturers have an incentive to further invest in these cars as they will save consumers money.
One day you will drive a zero emission vehicle that has the same, if not better, performance than your Trophy. You can bet your bottom dollar that tax initiatives and policies such as the one announced today will have contributed to this.
Now stop complaining!!!!
Cheers
O.
If I were to tell you that fees such as this contribute to the great cars we are able to drive - would you believe me?
The economic principle is as follows:
- Car makers want to sell as many cars as possible
- A car that requires the consumer to pay less tax will have a marketing advantage over one that is more expensive to tax
- Car makers invest more money into R&D to develop cleaner and more efficient engines
- The consumer and the environment win: more economical engines
If fuel tax never increased and the fees for running a car were the same as 50 years ago then there would be no incentive for manufacturers to improve their engine efficiency (after all it would be dirt cheap to fill up so consumers would not value economy as an important attribute).
So yes, people go on and on about this rise but at the end of the day you will end up with better cars (read: more fuel efficient) which has a by-product of being better for the environment.
The same goes for future initiatives. If there is no incentive for manufacturers to sell Hydrogen/Hybrid cars then why should they bother to make them? As it stands these cars are almost exempt from tax so manufacturers have an incentive to further invest in these cars as they will save consumers money.
One day you will drive a zero emission vehicle that has the same, if not better, performance than your Trophy. You can bet your bottom dollar that tax initiatives and policies such as the one announced today will have contributed to this.
Now stop complaining!!!!
Cheers
O.
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As I'm in the industry I've access to quite a bit of Automotive industry news. Here's a small clip about the revised tax structure which you may find of interest:
UK: Vehicle tax change effects seen as minimal
24 Mar 2006
Source: just-auto editorial team
According to EurotaxGlass’s, British chancellor (finance minister) Gordon Brown’s plan to introduce a new higher rate of vehicle excise duty (VED) for the most polluting new cars (those above 225g of carbon dioxide emissions per kilometre) will have a negligible impact on vehicle sales.
For any car falling within the proposed new top VED band, the tax payable will increase by just GBP40 per annum, or a mere GBP3.33 per month - an inconsequential sum compared to the higher fuel and purchase price which typically goes with ownership of such a vehicle.
Similarly, eliminating the GBP55 annual VED on a low-emissions car will offer meagre additional incentive, especially when alternative fuel and petrol-electric hybrid cars typically have list prices above those of conventional alternatives.
However, EurotaxGlass’s suggests that the chancellor’s Budget statement may contribute to negative opinion about the more polluting cars on UK roads.
“We have seen sales of large luxury cars fall markedly over recent years, and SUV demand may start to decline if they increasingly become viewed as less socially-acceptable than other cars,†said EurotaxGlass’s managing editor Adrian Rushmore.
The vehicle pricing specialist has said the price of the average one-year-old prestige brand SUV is currently 7% lower than in March 2005, equivalent to a significant GBP2,500 drop in the typical asking price. These vehicles are becoming increasingly affordable due to improvements in availability, growing competition in the segment, and falling waiting lists for new models.
“Residual values for prestige SUVs are finally falling from the high levels that have prevailed for the last 36 months,†added the firm’s prestige car editor Richard Crosthwaite. “We now expect to see rates of depreciation for these cars level out, and they will still outperform most other prestige car segments.â€Â
A 12-month-old BMW X5 3.0d Sport SE (auto) currently has a trade value of GBP36,625, approximately 9% or GBP3,550 down on what an identical X5 of the same age would have achieved in March 2005. Similarly, a Volvo XC90 D5 SE (auto) now has a value of GBP28,650, some GBP3,450 or 11% lower than at the same point last year.
The Porsche Cayenne has also suffered, with a Cayenne S (auto) now worth GBP40,600 compared to GBP42,825 in March 2005 - a fall of 5% or GBP2,225.
Meanwhile, a Mercedes-Benz ML270 CDI (auto) has a trade value of GBP25,000 this month, around GBP1,150 lower than the GBP26,150 that would be paid for the same age of ML270 CDI in March 2005.
UK: Vehicle tax change effects seen as minimal
24 Mar 2006
Source: just-auto editorial team
According to EurotaxGlass’s, British chancellor (finance minister) Gordon Brown’s plan to introduce a new higher rate of vehicle excise duty (VED) for the most polluting new cars (those above 225g of carbon dioxide emissions per kilometre) will have a negligible impact on vehicle sales.
For any car falling within the proposed new top VED band, the tax payable will increase by just GBP40 per annum, or a mere GBP3.33 per month - an inconsequential sum compared to the higher fuel and purchase price which typically goes with ownership of such a vehicle.
Similarly, eliminating the GBP55 annual VED on a low-emissions car will offer meagre additional incentive, especially when alternative fuel and petrol-electric hybrid cars typically have list prices above those of conventional alternatives.
However, EurotaxGlass’s suggests that the chancellor’s Budget statement may contribute to negative opinion about the more polluting cars on UK roads.
“We have seen sales of large luxury cars fall markedly over recent years, and SUV demand may start to decline if they increasingly become viewed as less socially-acceptable than other cars,†said EurotaxGlass’s managing editor Adrian Rushmore.
The vehicle pricing specialist has said the price of the average one-year-old prestige brand SUV is currently 7% lower than in March 2005, equivalent to a significant GBP2,500 drop in the typical asking price. These vehicles are becoming increasingly affordable due to improvements in availability, growing competition in the segment, and falling waiting lists for new models.
“Residual values for prestige SUVs are finally falling from the high levels that have prevailed for the last 36 months,†added the firm’s prestige car editor Richard Crosthwaite. “We now expect to see rates of depreciation for these cars level out, and they will still outperform most other prestige car segments.â€Â
A 12-month-old BMW X5 3.0d Sport SE (auto) currently has a trade value of GBP36,625, approximately 9% or GBP3,550 down on what an identical X5 of the same age would have achieved in March 2005. Similarly, a Volvo XC90 D5 SE (auto) now has a value of GBP28,650, some GBP3,450 or 11% lower than at the same point last year.
The Porsche Cayenne has also suffered, with a Cayenne S (auto) now worth GBP40,600 compared to GBP42,825 in March 2005 - a fall of 5% or GBP2,225.
Meanwhile, a Mercedes-Benz ML270 CDI (auto) has a trade value of GBP25,000 this month, around GBP1,150 lower than the GBP26,150 that would be paid for the same age of ML270 CDI in March 2005.