Trophy Sales on Collecting Cars
- Thread starter Rhys
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Mmmmm, I get a sense of this ^ too. I bought a watch using the sister site (pretty much by mistake) and I’m not sure I would do it again. They guide you, but you do feel a little that you are left hanging on your own with very little protection. But then again it is just a glorified auction site enabling people to buy and sell, not a dealer.
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I'm going to try and be careful how I word this, as I wouldn't want to ruffle feathers...
In it's early days, I used to thoroughly enjoy the whole CC experience and indeed indulged in a good amount of bidding on certain things, which generally always went beyond my self imposed limit, something which now, I'm probably relieved about.
Then things got more serious, about 3 years ago I began a search for a specific vehicle, backed up with a healthy budget, this wasn't just blithely bidding for kicks on the off chance of snagging something interesting, and thus CC was often my 1st port of call on this search and a good few examples of this particular motorcar were often available and this is when I started to get a different viewpoint. When it comes to the car in question, I'll have to confess I'm sadly one of those annoying geeky rivet counter types, I know the cars inside out from many hours, wasted some might say, tinkering, tuning, building and re-building the bloody things in my teens and twenties. I know what's what as it were.
Glossy, outwardly attractive examples of the things popped up like shiny buses on CC, and I'd be all over them, but the more I looked the more disenchanted I became. Every one, and I mean that... every bloody single one had some sort of issue. And I'm talking about the sort of issues way beyond just being a dog dressed up in a dinner jacket. When my interest and questions on a particular car quite clearly NOT the car it was claiming to be culminated in some rude reactionary words from a 'famous' racing driver of some notoriety sticking up for his mate I decided, I was out. CC was not the place for me to be buying one of these cars, one thing (among many) I can't abide is wool pulling.
So, I've since taken a step back, but certainly watched with interest the Trophy phenomenon on there, and I think it has certainly had a good hand in raising awareness and also the value of the cars in the last few years, which as owner/enthusiasts we should indeed be grateful for. It's just, as others have mentioned, all a bit blind, all a little bit too caveat emptor, and I think that in a way is where it's starting to let itself down sadly. It's probably still the best place to head to if you've got a Trophy to sell, but to buy? I'm not too sure, like that other old motor there's becoming too much disparity with some of these cars.
I personally now look increasingly to owners forums for specialist cars, you can get a feel for the cars, their owners, the passion, the stories (or provenance if you want to be posh...) and enthusiasm. Then when things come up for sale, you almost know the car before you view it or buy. It's perhaps a bit old-school, but it's more personal, granted probably more time and work, but for me more of a reward at the end and you generally end up making friends with like minded folk rather than being shouted down by some Goodwood pedalling gobshite.
Just my two-penneth tangent on the subject.
In it's early days, I used to thoroughly enjoy the whole CC experience and indeed indulged in a good amount of bidding on certain things, which generally always went beyond my self imposed limit, something which now, I'm probably relieved about.
Then things got more serious, about 3 years ago I began a search for a specific vehicle, backed up with a healthy budget, this wasn't just blithely bidding for kicks on the off chance of snagging something interesting, and thus CC was often my 1st port of call on this search and a good few examples of this particular motorcar were often available and this is when I started to get a different viewpoint. When it comes to the car in question, I'll have to confess I'm sadly one of those annoying geeky rivet counter types, I know the cars inside out from many hours, wasted some might say, tinkering, tuning, building and re-building the bloody things in my teens and twenties. I know what's what as it were.
Glossy, outwardly attractive examples of the things popped up like shiny buses on CC, and I'd be all over them, but the more I looked the more disenchanted I became. Every one, and I mean that... every bloody single one had some sort of issue. And I'm talking about the sort of issues way beyond just being a dog dressed up in a dinner jacket. When my interest and questions on a particular car quite clearly NOT the car it was claiming to be culminated in some rude reactionary words from a 'famous' racing driver of some notoriety sticking up for his mate I decided, I was out. CC was not the place for me to be buying one of these cars, one thing (among many) I can't abide is wool pulling.
So, I've since taken a step back, but certainly watched with interest the Trophy phenomenon on there, and I think it has certainly had a good hand in raising awareness and also the value of the cars in the last few years, which as owner/enthusiasts we should indeed be grateful for. It's just, as others have mentioned, all a bit blind, all a little bit too caveat emptor, and I think that in a way is where it's starting to let itself down sadly. It's probably still the best place to head to if you've got a Trophy to sell, but to buy? I'm not too sure, like that other old motor there's becoming too much disparity with some of these cars.
I personally now look increasingly to owners forums for specialist cars, you can get a feel for the cars, their owners, the passion, the stories (or provenance if you want to be posh...) and enthusiasm. Then when things come up for sale, you almost know the car before you view it or buy. It's perhaps a bit old-school, but it's more personal, granted probably more time and work, but for me more of a reward at the end and you generally end up making friends with like minded folk rather than being shouted down by some Goodwood pedalling gobshite.
Just my two-penneth tangent on the subject.
Rhys
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I agree with this! I enjoy seeing them pass through and looking at the prices but wouldn't bid for one myself. I had a poor expirience buying my last car (924 Turbo S2) from auction, alledgedly 'Fully Restored' by Porsche Centre Bolton. After weeks of doing work that a OPC should have done lets just say i'm passed it with online auctions.
One small positive with CC is that you can make contact with the owner and go and see the car before you bid, which isn't nothing I suppose.
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List updated:
2023
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,720
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - £unsold
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420
2023
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,720
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - £unsold
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420
. Looks a great buy for when the market recovers.
NickReilly063
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310 up next on Collecting Cars - They just keep coming.
I think this Chap bought two Trophy's last year so I can understand his reasons for letting one go -
I think this Chap bought two Trophy's last year so I can understand his reasons for letting one go -
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List updated, pending sale of No.310 - last sold on CC in November '22:
2023
??/06/2023 - #310 - 77,365 miles - TBC
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,864
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - £unsold
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420
2023
??/06/2023 - #310 - 77,365 miles - TBC
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,864
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - £unsold
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420
NickReilly063
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Another for the list Chaps - coming soon 451.
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List updated, with the result for #451 :
2023
??/06/2023 - #310 - 77,365 miles - TBC
15/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - UNSOLD. Reserve not met. Bid up to £7,100
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,864
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - UNSOLD
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420
2023
??/06/2023 - #310 - 77,365 miles - TBC
15/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - UNSOLD. Reserve not met. Bid up to £7,100
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,864
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - UNSOLD
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420
NickReilly063
ClioTrophy Club Member
Another for the list Chaps - coming soon 451.
£7100 - unsold.
I was going to add a “and poof there goes the market” but looking at the pictures of that one and in the expectation I will upset someone. A bit of effort cleaning would probably have gained a few extra bids.
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Yes.. I just saw that on the Facebook group, though it appears the owner is looking for 9+.
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Number 451, up again after last week's no sale.
This time with 'no reserve'...
This time with 'no reserve'...
Rhys
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- Thread starter
- #100
List updated, with upcoming sales:
2023
28/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - TBC (Reposted with no reserve)
??/06/2023 - #310 - 77,365 miles - TBC
15/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - UNSOLD. Reserve not met. Bid up to £7,100
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,864
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - UNSOLD
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420
2023
28/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - TBC (Reposted with no reserve)
??/06/2023 - #310 - 77,365 miles - TBC
15/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - UNSOLD. Reserve not met. Bid up to £7,100
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,864
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043
2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - UNSOLD
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #143 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646
2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985
2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420