not sure didnt ask, they were already sold when i got there which was really annoying as i phoned up to leave a deposit the day before and they told me not to and to come and see them first, they sold them for £650 including the subframes. well gutted.
Very easy to fit, just need the subframes (although they should have come with them, tbh) ... i bought Evo 6 Recaros, less than £200 for the same thing :wink: