Are these the ones that you guys are talking about:
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jsthomson
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jsthomson
Brembo Disc Brakes
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Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
The Blue ones.. Im simply going by what ppl are say on here.
Braided lines is next question there are so many on the market not sure which ones.
Question does this increase or decrease insurance as I guess they will have to be notified re modifications.
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Sthomson
The Blue ones.. Im simply going by what ppl are say on here.
Braided lines is next question there are so many on the market not sure which ones.
Question does this increase or decrease insurance as I guess they will have to be notified re modifications.
Regards
Sthomson
Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
Those are the ones i was talking about above.
As to the braided lines, the reno ones are braided internally but if you've the cash go for it but i wouldn't say they are a must just for the road.
It will depend on your insurance company, it's always best to tell them even though things like brakes wear out and get replaced and i'm sure a lot of the time not with the original manufaturers items.
Those are the ones i was talking about above.
As to the braided lines, the reno ones are braided internally but if you've the cash go for it but i wouldn't say they are a must just for the road.
It will depend on your insurance company, it's always best to tell them even though things like brakes wear out and get replaced and i'm sure a lot of the time not with the original manufaturers items.
BenG
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Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
I would personally.
What would be quicker round a track though, Trophy with £1K spent on brakes or Trophy with £1K spent on performance mods ?? close call i recon.
For B road driving a set of 4-pots would be well worth while, I dont think the increase in unsprung weight would be much ?
I would personally.
What would be quicker round a track though, Trophy with £1K spent on brakes or Trophy with £1K spent on performance mods ?? close call i recon.
For B road driving a set of 4-pots would be well worth while, I dont think the increase in unsprung weight would be much ?
Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
That's basically my logic: I don't do track days, but I do go into Wales A LOT! Straight line speed is less important to me; I'm more interesting is dramatically reducing brake fade and greater stopping power.
Even with my Brembo HCs, Mintex 1144s, .5 fluid and braided hoses I still find they overheat and fade a little too quickly. But they are much better than standard though.
BenG said:
That's basically my logic: I don't do track days, but I do go into Wales A LOT! Straight line speed is less important to me; I'm more interesting is dramatically reducing brake fade and greater stopping power.
Even with my Brembo HCs, Mintex 1144s, .5 fluid and braided hoses I still find they overheat and fade a little too quickly. But they are much better than standard though.
BenG
ClioTrophy Moderator
Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
I have Mintex 1155's, again, alot better than standard but fade a little if used excessivley, I havent got round to fitting Braided lines yet and my brakes are feeling a bit spongy so need bleeding.
Which 4-pots would you go for?
I have Mintex 1155's, again, alot better than standard but fade a little if used excessivley, I havent got round to fitting Braided lines yet and my brakes are feeling a bit spongy so need bleeding.
Which 4-pots would you go for?
Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
Its probably Willwood?
Don't bother with 4-pots. A waste of money on a clio. Just go for Brembo Max discs, Pagid blue or yellow pads and some braided lines with decent brake fluid and you will never fade them and the stopping power is absolutely fantastic, and for £300 maximum, you are laughing.
Brakes or performance? I did both, and semi-sicks. Do it all :lol:
On a serious note though, in terms of having fun on track, brakes are the most important as the standard setup will fade and thats very annoying on a trackday.
Its probably Willwood?
Don't bother with 4-pots. A waste of money on a clio. Just go for Brembo Max discs, Pagid blue or yellow pads and some braided lines with decent brake fluid and you will never fade them and the stopping power is absolutely fantastic, and for £300 maximum, you are laughing.
Brakes or performance? I did both, and semi-sicks. Do it all :lol:
On a serious note though, in terms of having fun on track, brakes are the most important as the standard setup will fade and thats very annoying on a trackday.
Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
my 2 pennies worth.
I've tried so many combinations my personal opinion is with the standard callipers the best combination for road use is:
Front
Pagid rs 4-2's (blue) pads, brembo HC disks, braided lines (goodridge or mocal) with castrol responce dot 4 fluid.
Rear
Ferodo DS2500 pads
OEM disks
If you plan on taking it on track then brembo max disks on the front would be my choice but iirc you can save £10 or so by going for the HC's - which should cover half the cost of the new lines.
Now regarding 4 pots, personally if i had an open cheque i'd be ignoring all the advice above and fit AP racing 4 pots - but you'd need to remove the fog lights and fit some air ducts as they generate a lot of heat - the wheels aren't the greatest at dissipating the heat.
Stay clear of any other 4 pots as you'll just end up spending twice as much money on something that's only marginally better than the above combination.
Also, whether 4 pots are worth it - as i say if you have the money, yes they are 1. the stopping performance is immense on cars around the 1000kg weight AND 2. some superbikes now run 4 pots - this isn't for show!
The 197 is what 200kg heavier? ask anyone who's taken one on track what they think of the Trophy's brakes in comparison to the 197's.... 'nuff said.
But as I say instead of spending £300 on brakes the AP kit is circa £1000+ so it's like saying do you stick with a Casio watch, spend more and get some thing decent like a Tag? or spend stupid money on something Greenwich would rely on like a Rolex? Personally the Tag does me fine....
my 2 pennies worth.
I've tried so many combinations my personal opinion is with the standard callipers the best combination for road use is:
Front
Pagid rs 4-2's (blue) pads, brembo HC disks, braided lines (goodridge or mocal) with castrol responce dot 4 fluid.
Rear
Ferodo DS2500 pads
OEM disks
If you plan on taking it on track then brembo max disks on the front would be my choice but iirc you can save £10 or so by going for the HC's - which should cover half the cost of the new lines.
Now regarding 4 pots, personally if i had an open cheque i'd be ignoring all the advice above and fit AP racing 4 pots - but you'd need to remove the fog lights and fit some air ducts as they generate a lot of heat - the wheels aren't the greatest at dissipating the heat.
Stay clear of any other 4 pots as you'll just end up spending twice as much money on something that's only marginally better than the above combination.
Also, whether 4 pots are worth it - as i say if you have the money, yes they are 1. the stopping performance is immense on cars around the 1000kg weight AND 2. some superbikes now run 4 pots - this isn't for show!
The 197 is what 200kg heavier? ask anyone who's taken one on track what they think of the Trophy's brakes in comparison to the 197's.... 'nuff said.
But as I say instead of spending £300 on brakes the AP kit is circa £1000+ so it's like saying do you stick with a Casio watch, spend more and get some thing decent like a Tag? or spend stupid money on something Greenwich would rely on like a Rolex? Personally the Tag does me fine....
Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
Maybe I was being a tad hypocritical with my comments:
Yes, I do run 4 Pot AP's on my 475ish kg Westfield
:lol:
I never ran 4-pots on the clio and have never been in a clio with them so I don't know 100% what I am talking about.
However, given my experience on the clio, I never touched the rears and ran Brembo Max discs with both Pagid Yellow and Pagid Blue pads, both were great from cold, great on the road, great on the track, the yellow's a tad better, but the brakes were phenominal for the money and I would always recommend them to someone over 4-pots just based on the cost and just how good the setup is. I very much doubt someone with a 4-pot kit would brake any later, unless its a top driver. I could be wrong though.
Agreed with Cue though about AP. I didn't realise AP Racing made a kit for the clio, I have only seen Willwood and another which don't really strike me as amazing, both product names with mixed reviews. But there is no arguing against AP, if it was someone else paying I would ask for them, otherwise I would take the above setup.
Thats imbalanced my argument a tad, but I would say for most people don't worry about 4-pots!
Maybe I was being a tad hypocritical with my comments:
Yes, I do run 4 Pot AP's on my 475ish kg Westfield
:lol: I never ran 4-pots on the clio and have never been in a clio with them so I don't know 100% what I am talking about.
However, given my experience on the clio, I never touched the rears and ran Brembo Max discs with both Pagid Yellow and Pagid Blue pads, both were great from cold, great on the road, great on the track, the yellow's a tad better, but the brakes were phenominal for the money and I would always recommend them to someone over 4-pots just based on the cost and just how good the setup is. I very much doubt someone with a 4-pot kit would brake any later, unless its a top driver. I could be wrong though.
Agreed with Cue though about AP. I didn't realise AP Racing made a kit for the clio, I have only seen Willwood and another which don't really strike me as amazing, both product names with mixed reviews. But there is no arguing against AP, if it was someone else paying I would ask for them, otherwise I would take the above setup.
Thats imbalanced my argument a tad, but I would say for most people don't worry about 4-pots!
Re: Brembo Disc Breaks
Quentin,
http://www.k-tecracing.com
I believe they sell the Pagid Blue's that cue is talking about, definately sell the brembo's and sell there own version of braided hoses.
Or have a look here http://www.yozzasport.co.uk/ These definately sell the blue pagids and discs, and moquip hoses.
You may have to go the ebay route to buy Goodridge, i saw them on there new for £50 plus postage.
I just ordered my setup from k-tec, went the most common route: ferodo ds2500 pads all round, brembo max discs at front, genuine reno at rear, already have goodridge hoses fitted plus bought an ITG panel filter - £520ish
Quentin,
http://www.k-tecracing.com
I believe they sell the Pagid Blue's that cue is talking about, definately sell the brembo's and sell there own version of braided hoses.
Or have a look here http://www.yozzasport.co.uk/ These definately sell the blue pagids and discs, and moquip hoses.
You may have to go the ebay route to buy Goodridge, i saw them on there new for £50 plus postage.
I just ordered my setup from k-tec, went the most common route: ferodo ds2500 pads all round, brembo max discs at front, genuine reno at rear, already have goodridge hoses fitted plus bought an ITG panel filter - £520ish