Trophy Sales on Collecting Cars

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

Titan said:
In today's new marketplace,with the price of most cars going down,it may turn out to be a regretful decision by the seller.

But it's their car so they can do what they want with it.

The reserve must have been at least £21k plus then.

I think I know who the seller was, and would say that the initial reserve would be set close to £30k with it lowered to £25k towards the end. Either way, too strong, as the no sale illustrates.

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

NickReilly063 said:
Come on Jules - don’t hold back

I’ve already put that the black stickers are missing from the front bumper - must have been painted at some point -

Split in the middle of the (non-original) front splitter... What was that all about?

...I'll shut up now.

hoolio · Dec 28, 2023

photo_ed said:
I know we could... But perhaps best kept to DM or face to face?

NickReilly063 said:
Come on Jules - don’t hold back

I’ve already put that the black stickers are missing from the front bumper - must have been painted at some point -

It‘s what I do isn’t it?

Tbh I think expectation was a little high, beery, post Xmas funk or not.

NickReilly063 · Dec 28, 2023

AlexRae said:
Who ever bids knows what the reserve is as they take the money/apply for fees straight away before bidding finishes

I’m not sure that’s correct Alex - I’ve bid on cars and they will not disclose the reserve till the auction finishes - they will then try and deal you to give more - also they will reduce there commission if it helps to make a deal.

Only my experience and it may have changed as it’s over 6mths since I’ve bid on anything.

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

NickReilly063 said:
I’m not sure that’s correct Alex - I’ve bid on cars and they will not disclose the reserve till the auction finishes - they will then try and deal you to give more - also they will reduce there commission if it helps to make a deal.

Only my experience and it may have changed as it’s over 6mths since I’ve bid on anything.

My experience as a previous bidder on stuff is the same as yours Nick.

NickReilly063 · Dec 28, 2023

I do believe in my opinion that there should have been some images of the underneath ???

Where they hiding something

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

NickReilly063 said:
I do believe in my opinion that there should have been some images of the underneath ???

Where they hiding something

I'm not sure if there was any skullduggery in play there Nick. I'd imagine it to be fair and reasonably tidy underneath, it certainly wasn't being pedalled as an ultra concours example, more low mileage usable in my view.

hoolio · Dec 28, 2023

NickReilly063 said:
I do believe in my opinion that there should have been some images of the underneath ???

Where they hiding something

Yeah, it would have been nice as I think the engine bay had some attention to get it looking acceptable. As Ed says, I don’t think it was hiding too much, jacking points were all very tidy.

Titan · Dec 28, 2023

Just curious about what happens if a car doesn't sell or meet its reserve.

Do CC facilitate or approach the highest bidder to see if they will offer more?

NickReilly063 · Dec 28, 2023

Yes Francis - all they want is to sell something and earn there commission

They also do it to the seller too - even before the auction finishes

hoolio · Dec 28, 2023

I mentioned and then deleted, that I thought the photos were a little low res, but is that a really bad scratch on the bumper just in front of the front (drivers side) wheel of just a reflection?

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

hoolio said:
I mentioned and then deleted, that I thought the photos were a little low res, but is that a really bad scratch on the bumper just in front of the front (drivers side) wheel of just a reflection?

Yes. I noticed that.

Couldn't make my mind up if it was a weird reflection from something in the gravel.

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

List updated with the (non)result for #500:

2023
28/12/2023 - #500 - 36,551 miles - UNSOLD (Reserve not met. Bid up to £20,000).
17/11/2023 - #310 - 77,452 miles - £9,648.
29/08/2023 - #430 - 48,835 miles - £19,833.
07/08/2023 - #142 - 102,650 miles - £7,760.
30/07/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £14,204.
27/07/2023 - #352 - 105,000 miles - UNSOLD. (Reserve not met. Bid up to £7,100)
28/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - £9,005
X/06/2023 - #310 - 77,365 miles - Withdrawn.
15/06/2023 - #451 - 125,132 miles - UNSOLD. (Reserve not met. Bid up to £7,100)
30/05/2023 - #485 - 51,748 miles - £12,864
15/05/2023 - #082 - 76,000 miles - £12,043

2022
X/12/2022- #309 - 113,162 Miles - UNSOLD
12/12/2022 - #353 - 93,500 Miles - £7,950
07/12/2022 - #419 - 76,717 Miles - £11,660
10/11/2022 - #310 - 77,160 miles - £11,853
19/10/2022 - #459 - 37,086 miles - £12,985
07/10/2022 - #198 - 157,471 miles - £5,406
16/09/2022 - #485 - 50,281 miles - £15,370
15/08/2022 - #443 - 94,613 miles - £9,540
12/07/2022 - #207 - 28,831 miles - £24,380
28/06/2022 - #309 - 111,641 miles - £8,427
17/06/2022 - #005 - 66,446 miles - £14,045
02/05/2022 - #142 - 98,480 miles - £8,215
12/04/2022 - #175 - 61,595 miles - £10,865
27/03/2022 - #277 - 44,700 miles - £16,960
13/03/2022 - #001 - 16,478 miles - £47,965
26/01/2022 - #079 - 101,000 miles - £9,646

2021
20/10/2021 - #311 - 154,241 miles - £7,208
17/10/2021 - #280 - 55,233 miles - £12,190
10/09/2021 - #077 - 109,813 miles - £11,501
24/08/2021 - #429 - 40,642 miles - £16,000 (PreAuction Sale)
15/07/2021 - #218 - 61,157 miles - £14,045
29/04/2021 - #467 - 94,200 miles - £8,704
12/04/2021 - #042 - 64,520 miles - £12,985

2020
10/11/2020 - #393 - 107,003 miles - £6,148
21/10/2020 - #309 - 108,994 miles - £7,420
15/10/2020 - #452 - 163,309 miles - £4,293
02/09/2020 - #467 - 93,895 miles - £8,586
08/08/2020 - #262 - 48,733 miles - £12,031
29/06/2020 - #358 - 120,498 miles - £7,420

AlexRae · Dec 28, 2023

NickReilly063 said:
I’m not sure that’s correct Alex - I’ve bid on cars and they will not disclose the reserve till the auction finishes - they will then try and deal you to give more - also they will reduce there commission if it helps to make a deal.

Only my experience and it may have changed as it’s over 6mths since I’ve bid on anything.

While bidding on a few weapons myself that I was outbid on my card was charged with the amount that would have only been the reserve amount

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

AlexRae said:
While bidding on a few weapons myself that I was outbid on my card was charged with the amount that would have only been the reserve amount

It must have changed then in that respect, mine only ever pre-authourised with the buyer premium (fees) amount..

CS 1969 · Dec 28, 2023

I watched this in the last couple of minutes. Wasn’t intending on bidding mind you but it timed down to zero then jumped back to 2 minutes!?!?

photo_ed · Dec 28, 2023

CS 1969 said:
I watched this in the last couple of minutes. Wasn’t intending on bidding mind you but it timed down to zero then jumped back to 2 minutes!?!?

That's how CC works. It keeps going until the bidding runs out of steam.

From the FAQ on the CC site:

"Can other bidders 'snipe' at the end of an auction to outbid me?

Our platform prevents sniping by automatically adding more time. Any bid received within the last two minutes will automatically trigger an extra two minutes to be added. After this point, only once there are no further bids within a two-minute window will the auction end."

CS 1969 · Dec 28, 2023

photo_ed said:
That's how CC works. It keeps going until the bidding runs out of steam.

From the FAQ on the CC site:

"Can other bidders 'snipe' at the end of an auction to outbid me?

Our platform prevents sniping by automatically adding more time. Any bid received within the last two minutes will automatically trigger an extra two minutes to be added. After this point, only once there are no further bids within a two-minute window will the auction end."

That explains it then