Worse thing possible

Samaustin · Oct 29, 2017

Two weeks into trophy ownership and it's fair to say things haven't run smoothly:

I was driving today on an A road at a sensible 50mph speed, and suddenly my car lurched and came to a stop I am suspecting my cambelt has snapped even thought it was done at a reputable Renault Specialist in 2014 and hasn't covered much more than 12000 miles in that time. I am gutted until this is all confirmed next week I am not sure what best options I have. I haven't even had time to bond with the car and enjoy it yet! A huge part of me is saying to regretfully sell this as it is and let someone technical take it on but what an earth am i going to get back for a good condition Clio trophy with 88k going to fetch as a none runner?

Sam

Patrick Bateman · Oct 29, 2017

Have you had a look at where the belts are situated for anything obvious?

SharkyUK · Oct 29, 2017

Sorry to hear that mate

I hope it's not as bad as you think. If the cambelt has let go then it might be worth sourcing a second-hand engine and dropping that in?

Samaustin · Oct 29, 2017

I’m not the most mechanical the Aa man said the crankshaft still goes up and down. No fault codes no oil leaks on the floor or anything.

Samaustin · Oct 29, 2017

Problem is sharky I wouldn’t know if the second hand engine was any good and it wasn’t going to happen again! I’ve checked on here and one person got lucky I’m just praying I’m the same it was driving so well etc

Claude · Oct 29, 2017

If you do get a replacement engine fitted, just make sure the belts are done on it.

Where in the world are you?

It's a terrible situation but it's recoverable, and I'd imagine you'll take more of a hit selling as is than you will sourcing and fitting a replacement F4R.

All the best

Samaustin · Oct 29, 2017

I’m based in Nottingham so I’m near mick at diamond motors. It’s the sheer cost that puts me off plus I just think I will be nervous driving it again now when it’s done. Will have to see what the verdict is and go from there. I’m favouring selling it off though.

MC1 · Oct 29, 2017

Mine dropped 1 valve @ 106k miles. Either faulty hydraulic tappet or valve spring. Still cost a bit as replaced all inlet valve springs as a precaution (& a set of 8 inlet valves)!
Isn't always a common fault if you're lucky

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Samaustin · Oct 29, 2017

Car was pulling fine though and felt really tight and good! The car just lurched quite violently which makes me think it’s the cambelt that’s gone and all power just went like that.

SharkyUK · Oct 29, 2017

Samaustin said:
Problem is sharky I wouldn’t know if the second hand engine was any good and it wasn’t going to happen again! I’ve checked on here and one person got lucky I’m just praying I’m the same it was driving so well etc :worried:

There is always a bit of a risk but you can find engines with known history and get the belts and work sorted by the likes of Mick at Diamond Motors. It's not cheap but I think it's worthwhile on a Trophy that is in otherwise good condition. Fingers crossed - as Claude states, this is very much a salvageable situation provided your ownership experience hasn't been tainted too harshly.

Samaustin · Oct 30, 2017

The car needs a totally new engine I am totally gutted it's had a bottom end failure and has blown the engine in to bits. I am probably going to be selling as spares and repairs. Bodywork is good, has had a new genuine clutch fitted, everything is original, wheels recently refurbished. 4 good condition Yokohama tyres. What can I expect to get for it?

MC1 · Oct 30, 2017

Sorry to hear it's totalled [emoji31]

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Titan · Oct 30, 2017

Really sorry to see that happening to you...:disappointed:

How much would second hand engine usually go for?

Is there any differences between the engine in the Trophy and any of the other Clio models like Clio Cup etc?

If you can get an engine for a decent price that might be the best option but I can see your really gutted by the whole thing and I wouldn't blame you!!

Miller · Oct 30, 2017

Wow Sorry to hear the bad news.

Patrick Bateman · Oct 30, 2017

This must be super rare on these engines. Was the oil level sound?

Big Dave · Oct 30, 2017

There must be loads of 182 engines about with reasonable mileage on them...
If I had space,, and the time ide be making you an offer,,,,,, but I have neither...
Has the previous owner tracked the car at all..??

dablk · Oct 30, 2017

That is a pisser mate.

Pure motorsport sell brand new heads and bottom ends.. spending on how perfect an engine you might want to drop in.

Hmm if my two car gargae comes off..

SharkyUK · Oct 30, 2017

Samaustin said:
The car needs a totally new engine I am totally gutted it's had a bottom end failure and has blown the engine in to bits. I am probably going to be selling as spares and repairs. Bodywork is good, has had a new genuine clutch fitted, everything is original, wheels recently refurbished. 4 good condition Yokohama tyres. What can I expect to get for it?

Sorry to hear that mate, that's really bad luck

Titan said:
Is there any differences between the engine in the Trophy and any of the other Clio models like Clio Cup etc?

Same engine in all 182's mate. You can even drop a 172 lump in as they are 99.9% the same and will offer the same power output.

Phil Hart · Oct 30, 2017

Samaustin said:
The car needs a totally new engine I am totally gutted it's had a bottom end failure and has blown the engine in to bits. I am probably going to be selling as spares and repairs. Bodywork is good, has had a new genuine clutch fitted, everything is original, wheels recently refurbished. 4 good condition Yokohama tyres. What can I expect to get for it?

Is it just the crank/rods or is the block holed or permently damaged too and have you got a price in mind for it as it is?

Samaustin · Oct 31, 2017

I’ve tried staying off this as I’m that upset. Thanks for the support though I appreciate it. I have decided to sorn the car and cancel my insurance. The oil level was fine and coolant level was fine, in fact the car was pulling great etc and under the previous owner had just completed a trip back from Holland! It dropped a valve at 50mph in fifth gear which in turn I believe has punctured the engine block. I do think at this moment I will sell it as a complete car just minus an engine but the engine can go with it in bits, but I need to do some workings out to which is best. My main problem is I haven’t bonded with the car yet and chucking money at it makes me ill. Phil if you PM me what you’re thinking and we can go from there. The car in question is in the advertised section as I’ve not long bought it the reg number is FY55 WZH, cheers.