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The thing is the Trophy is just about the same car as the cup but the latest and final version and it is now the benchmark for hot hatches. Why would you want to run 2 182's in the same test.

I think many dealers would'nt want to part with un-registered ones, although i would think most would have been registered by now. With there only being a few left the dealers know they can shift them at a good price so would be reluctant to pass them on to other dealers. I would aim to try...

Its hardly an investment having a Williams and not hardly using it your better off putting your money in the bank, you would get a better return and alot less hassle. I mean changing nuts and bolts i've got better things to do with my time. Check out Evo and the excellent write up on the...

Picked mine up at lunch time haven't had chance to read it yet, not bad the Trophy being car of the year.

Did you mean wind his Williams up?

and the wheels gold.

You should get a job with Parkers. Whats your Williams worth taking into account what you have said above £500 quid. To keep a car in good nick you can't refurb your wheels with just any christmas decoration gold spray paint. You should know that.

Most people did'nt pay anywhere near £15.5K. I paid £12.6K, so I would assume it would be a similar depreciation level to most other cars.

I think only slightly better than a 182 £500-1000 better.

There are lies, dam lies and statistics.

If The Williams had one it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Do you are saying you are right and the people who test them are wrong, the world would be a safer place without airbags.

How much did it cost?

=D>

Enlighten us all, i'm sure you will soon. And talk about calling a kettle black. You come on here slag the Clio Trophy off amd tell us just how good your Williams and mr2 are like we all care. I'm just glad i don't have to buy a knackered mr2 as a run about.

None of us care about your mr2

Why would they put them in cars if they were not effective whilst wearing a seatbelt?

Talks a good race. You sound a really good driver so get your Williams on the track and prove what it can do.

Quality Stromba, you do keep trying, where did the LSD come from or are you on it. :shock:

I have to agree most people i've spoken to could'nt care less about Best he wasted his last chance and I have no sympathy. And to hear on the radio on the way home his coffin was draped in the Man U flag what a joke. Also the clip they showed on Wogan when he was pissed out of his head, how...

Chills the compartment when ths air von is on.

Stromba, have you sat in or driven a St to be able to comment on its build quality? Ford can't even match the paint on the bumpers. The Trophy is more exclsive than an ST will be and also a Williams.

Before I got mine the salesman had a number he could give me for Renault and they will give you 7 days of insurance for free and they would fax the details straight to the garage so they could get it taxed.

Perfomance wise theres nothing in it unless you want to drive at silly speeds over 100. As said above the 182 can punch above its class but it should be compared to the ST Fiesta as they are similar sized cars. If I was buying a car in that class I would go for the Megane Cup, looks so much...

Lets see what they think to it on 5th Gear tonight. Personally I don't like the look of it.

To be honest I thought it would go for more than 7K. Not slagging the car off but why would anyone pay 20K for it and not use it. And if you did buy it to use it you would be better of buying a Trophy and put 8k in the bank.

Wonder if it will sell within the guide price. If it does would be a good car for 7k.

Give it half an hour and Stromba will be about to slag off the review and car.

If i was going to buy one in a couple of years time I would'nt bother looking at one that was'nt standard in every way.

Why call the article poor when it was the writers opinions of the car. When you have driven a Trophy then you might be in a position to comment on the findings.

I did'nt pay anywhere near 15K for mine. I have'nt got the money to go out buying different cars every week like you suggest . I have driven cars alot quicker than the Trophy after 15 years of driving. If this was a Robin Reliant Forum i don't think you would be here so obviously you...